Matt Damon Rips Sarah Palin (good points too)

[outsider]

YouTube - Matt Damon Rips Sarah Palin

[fibula]

Poor McCain lol

Everyone is talking about Palin like he's dead already

[TheZenMan]

I usually just hate hollywood fucks, but I can't say I don't see exactly what he's saying.

Other than his biblical concerns, I'm with him.

[chunkreloaded]

I don't buy the experience argument...from a guy who supporst Barack Hussein Obama....

[TheZenMan]

But that's the problem.

Who else?

The reason Palin is even popular is the same one the let's her run against Obama while McCain just says shit.

The "two sides" are all we get and both sides now like their choices.

[Wagonburner]

STFU Matt Damon is an uber-expert in politics. He has a doctorate in the study of geopolitical reform, he spent 25 years in the state department, he travels the world as a "fixer" for multi-cultural problems....oh wait, no he doesn't. he is a crappy actor.

[BillyBobRedneck]

he's still pissed that the CIA killed marie

[outsider]

STFU Matt Damon is an uber-expert in politics. He has a doctorate in the study of geopolitical reform, he spent 25 years in the state department, he travels the world as a "fixer" for multi-cultural problems....oh wait, no he doesn't. he is a crappy actor.

He's also an American with as much opportunity to be as informed as any of us. If the only people who should be allowed to have a political opinion are politicians than we truly are damned and we should just stop the whole voting thing.

[MsThang]

I was thinking the same thing as outsider. We all express our opinions if asked, why should he be any different?

I'm sure he was asked about it and didn't just sit down to tape something to be released on youtube or something. And even if that is what he did, who cares?

Anyone who would look at this and go "oh, but Matt Damon says, so I'm gonna vote for whoever he tells me to" is an idiot.

But he's said the same things a lot of other Americans are thinking.

[OddPants]

FUCK YOU ALL. I will VOTE FOR MATT DAMON IF I WANT TO.

[Tex]

LOL. That's hilarious considering Obama's political experience when compared to Palin's. His comments remind me of the "Crazy World" TV ads.

Though, I will admit I believe it was a political decision to bring on Palin and not the best one McCain could make for our country.

Let's face it. Both parties this time around have people, who at least in my opinion, suck. It's just picking the lesser of two evils.

It's a damn shame it's come to that in this country, but that's just the way it is.

[fibula]

the fuck you come from?

:hsdance::hsdance::hsdance::hsdance:

[MsThang]

the fuck you come from?

:hsdance::hsdance::hsdance::hsdance:

The fuck did any of us really come from fibula? I think that's the deeper question here.

[Tex]

The fuck did any of us really come from fibula? I think that's the deeper question here.

Lol. True.

[Wagonburner]

I was thinking the same thing as outsider. We all express our opinions if asked, why should he be any different?

I'm sure he was asked about it and didn't just sit down to tape something to be released on youtube or something. And even if that is what he did, who cares?

Anyone who would look at this and go "oh, but Matt Damon says, so I'm gonna vote for whoever he tells me to" is an idiot.

But he's said the same things a lot of other Americans are thinking.

Because when was the last time that the average joe's political opinions were studio set up to be placed on you tube, or YOU were on TV being asked how you felt about a candidate? Yes I know all about public access channels. This country has waaay too many movie stars and the like whose opinions are given weight. Just look at movie stars lining up to endorse Obama. Most of these stars are absolute retards who have assistants, agents, and publicists who do most of their PR work for them. They are nothing more than pretty faces that unfortunately too many retards in this country seem to adore. Just look at the checkout line, the "star" magazines far outweigh anything of actual intellectual value. When Time, Newsweek, Smithsonian, MOther Jones, The Economist, Discover, etc, etc outnumber them, then I might begin to change my mind.

[FalseReality]

I never really could keep track of all the controversial topics surrounding her, so here I will try and make up a list.

1) When elected to be governor Palin hired friends, most having not single characteristic that would qualify them for the job, while firing those who oppose here dictatorial style of governing.

when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=palin&st=cse&oref=slogin

If that is the only qualification to deem someone worthy to oversee th department of agriculture, then we surely need to start nominating more Hindus for the job.

2) Personal Vendettas, more Alaskian monarchy.

Throughout her political career, she has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and sometimes blurred the line between government and personal grievance, according to a review of public records and interviews with 60 Republican and Democratic legislators and local officials.
3) Fought for Polar Bears to be taken off endangered species list

4) Closed down Museum because it showed that her town was becoming more progressive.

The mayor quickly fired the town’s museum director, John Cooper. Later, she sent an aide to the museum to talk to the three remaining employees. “He told us they only wanted two,” recalled Esther West, one of the three, “and we had to pick who was going to be laid off.” The three quit as one

Ms. Palin cited budget difficulties for the museum cuts. Mr. Cooper thought differently, saying the museum had become a microcosm of class and cultural conflicts in town. “It represented that the town was becoming more progressive, and they didn’t want that,” he said.
5) On her website it says that Palin has been to Canada, Mexico, Ireland, Kuwait and visited the troops over in Iraq, citing these examples to bolster her foreign policy experience. But what she neglects to mention is that she went to Canada and Mexico for vacation, touched down in Ireland only for a short while to refuel, and her experience in Iraq was a simple PR stop at a Kuwait-Iraq Border crossing.

6) Some of her closest friends admit that they won't be voting for her and that she scares the hell out of them. The same sentiments are share by Ed Koch and even republicans.

7) Believe Iraq was a mission from God. Also, believes that Alaska will be a refuge for Armageddon.

8) Believes there is a connection between the Iraq war and 9/11. Even that no connection has been found and the documents the Vice Presidential office released showing that Mohammad Atta met with Iraqi official were proven to be forged.

9) Trooper Gate, of course this is self-evident. It should be noted that recently, Palin's husband, who was once a member of the Alaskian Seperatist Party was subeoned for said affair.

10) At first supported the Bridge to Nowhere, then switched positions when the bridge became unpopular and called off, but nevertheless kept the money granted to the state, for the purpose of building a bridge.

11) Reported that she censored books, although this accusation is not entirely true. She merely ignored the concerns of the library while people checked out books and censored them theirselves beofre returning them.

12) Does not know what the Bush Doctrine is.

13) Cites the ability to see a country from a far distant island in her state as a qualification for foreign policy experience with Russia. Perhaps, this is the reason why America has been so good at keeping Canada and Mexico off our backs.

14) Believed that Russia invaded Georgia unprovoked, despite all evidence to the contrary

15) Similar to George W. Bush's Administration, while governor she kept much of her work secret, keeping things from public view.

16) Believes that both Creationism and Evolution (aka known as Science) should be taught in schools. I wonder why she does argue for the Buddhism and every other religion that sets for a creation story.

17) Characterizes her critics as "bad people who are anti-alaska"

Along the same lines,
Anti-Palin rally called 'biggest' in AK history (http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/alaska-women-reject-palin-rally-is-huge/)
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/alaska-women-reject-palin-rally-is-huge/

This is what I got, I'm sure there's more but it's been three weeks and if you can come up with 17 damning qualities in 3 weeks then maybe Matt Damon was right. Perhaps, we should be more concerned with the truth, then the person who is saying it.

[TheZenMan]

Because when was the last time that the average joe's political opinions were studio set up to be placed on you tube, or YOU were on TV being asked how you felt about a candidate? Yes I know all about public access channels. This country has waaay too many movie stars and the like whose opinions are given weight. Just look at movie stars lining up to endorse Obama. Most of these stars are absolute retards who have assistants, agents, and publicists who do most of their PR work for them. They are nothing more than pretty faces that unfortunately too many retards in this country seem to adore. Just look at the checkout line, the "star" magazines far outweigh anything of actual intellectual value. When Time, Newsweek, Smithsonian, MOther Jones, The Economist, Discover, etc, etc outnumber them, then I might begin to change my mind.

Agreed.

Thinking what he said in your own mind is one thing, but thinking what you think is so profound that it needs to be posted on youtube for the world to see is just ridiculous.

I like Palin for the same reason people like Obama. So the system works.
But it's also why I'm not voting for either party.

No amount of shit they dig up on Palin will make Obama a better choice. They all suck, and we're fucked.

[TheZenMan]

Perhaps, we should be more concerned with the truth, then the person who is saying it.

Okay.

What is the truth then?

[FalseReality]

Okay.

What is the truth then?

Well I believe I highlighted 17 of them, and good ole Matt mentioned at least two.

If you need sources for any just ask, I started out pasting links but soon grew tired of it, but if the credibility of my claims is what's bothering you then i will be more than happy to alleviate any of your concerns.

Or are you looking for a more philosophical argument?


I like Palin for the same reason people like Obama. So the system works.
But it's also why I'm not voting for either party.
And what are those? Because, people like Obama because he is inspiring (their words not mine.) When I hear Palin talk in the god awful Fargo accent spewing nothing but insults it is nauseating. Hell, when Karl Rove comes out to admit that the Mcain-Palin ticket is running a dirty campaign you know you're doing something wrong. But perhaps, I'm only assuming here, so please enlighten me for, unlike the other members of this board, I am not familar with anything except your dislike of Obama.



No amount of shit they dig up on Palin will make Obama a better choice.
Maybe, because she is the bottom half of the ticket your point is valid, but the choice does reflect upon McCain.

[TheZenMan]

Well I believe I highlighted 17 of them, and good ole Matt mentioned at least two.

That's not what I was asking.

I'm asking you how you discern the truth.

What you posted and what Matt Damon said are what you believe. Not the truth.
Some of it may be true, but you don't know that.

What Damon said are thoughts I've had myself about Palin. But my being in agreement with what someone else said doesn't make it true.

Nor does it mean that I had true thoughts.
It just means I relate to what was said.

Since humans cannot discern true from false, the people they listen to are significant.
I know Damon is for Obama, he announced that in like 2006. I know most every time I hear a celebrity or musician talk politics it sounds like a child.

But what Damon did was intelligent, he just spoke as if observing. Aside from the retarded dinosaur comment, he sounded like an intelligent fucking man.

I didn't just dismiss the whole thing because he's a Hollywood wacko in the tank for Obama, I had to admit I agreed with most of his concerns. And I actually like Palin.
But that doesn't make it true.



If you need sources for any just ask, I started out pasting links but soon grew tired of it, but if the credibility of my claims is what's bothering you then i will be more than happy to alleviate any of your concerns.

Or are you looking for a more philosophical argument?


Didn't you just imply that who says it isn't what's important? So who cares where you got the info, what matters is that it's true.

So no, I'm not concerned about the credibility of your sources.

The point is, I can post sources too.

Is the stuff that conservative talkers say about Obama true? Would links confirm it?

Truth is true because it is. So if you're concerned about it, then it behooves you to consider the person who claims to speak it.

It's not true because it's agreed upon, nor is it less-true if refused.


And what are those? Because, people like Obama because he is inspiring (their words not mine.) When I hear Palin talk in the god awful Fargo accent spewing nothing but insults it is nauseating. Hell, when Karl Rove comes out to admit that the Mcain-Palin ticket is running a dirty campaign you know you're doing something wrong. But perhaps, I'm only assuming here, so please enlighten me for, unlike the other members of this board, I am not familiar with anything except your dislike of Obama.

I like Palin because..

1) She's likable to me. Period. No more thought given than my initial reaction to seeing and hearing her.

2) The other options are abysmal in my eyes.

That's exactly how Obama got as strong as he did.

It's now about how the voter can make a statement about themselves, not the party or the policies.



Maybe, because she is the bottom half of the ticket your point is valid, but the choice does reflect upon McCain.

McCain is already a failure, always has been.

Trying to discredit Palin or McCain won't change what Obama is the same way that tearing down buildings don't make other buildings taller.

I stand by my statement that they're all shit, especially Obama.

And if you want a tidy explanation of why, guns. My breaking point for Obama is guns.