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outsider
08-16-2006, 05:14 PM
I obviously didn't make myself clear. I had math teachers who didn't want to teach math. English teachers who didn't know the difference between affect and effect, then and than, they're there and their. People got grades based on what they did not in the classroom and all the teachers did was to teach people to be intellectually lazy.

I didn't learn anything particularly worthwhile in school but I did spend a lot of time reading at the library and answering my own questions. I didn't learn because of public education, I learned in spite of it.

So while I may be patting myself on the back, and so fucking what if I am, you are failing to pay attention to what I'm actually saying. You're looking for what you want to read more than looking at what's written.

TheZenMan
08-16-2006, 05:30 PM
I obviously didn't make myself clear. I had math teachers who didn't want to teach math. English teachers who didn't know the difference between affect and effect, then and than, they're there and their. People got grades based on what they did not in the classroom and all the teachers did was to teach people to be intellectually lazy.

I didn't learn anything particularly worthwhile in school but I did spend a lot of time reading at the library and answering my own questions. I didn't learn because of public education, I learned in spite of it.

So while I may be patting myself on the back, and so fucking what if I am, you are failing to pay attention to what I'm actually saying. You're looking for what you want to read more than looking at what's written.

Aw, poor you.

It's nice to see you survived such an atrocity so unscathed and all the better for it.

I'm done playing the "you don't get my point" game with you man. You win.

outsider
08-16-2006, 05:42 PM
Where the hell are you getting any poor me shit from? I was better off that I went off on my own to learn. You said something outlandish and attributed your claims to me. It is beyond that you aren't getting my point it's that you are inventing your own story on it as opposed for taking what I'm saying just how I'm saying it.

TheZenMan
08-16-2006, 06:02 PM
Where the hell are you getting any poor me shit from? I was better off that I went off on my own to learn. You said something outlandish and attributed your claims to me. It is beyond that you aren't getting my point it's that you are inventing your own story on it as opposed for taking what I'm saying just how I'm saying it.

Poor you because you're telling me how shitty the system is.

When I ask you how, you can't stop telling me how awesome you are long enough to make your point.

So I have to just surrender to your notion that I don't get it. It's true, I don't have a fucking clue what you're basing your claim on.

I no longer care though, it's just easier to let you be right and pretend I have no objection to your opinion.

If the world is unfair to you and the system sucks and the government sucks, then so be it. Lucky me I'm not you, and vice versa.

outsider
08-16-2006, 06:03 PM
You sure spend a lot of time replying to things you aren't willing to read.

TheZenMan
08-16-2006, 06:17 PM
I'm so smart, and so awesome that if you disagree with me or otherwise object to the things I say it simply proves you clearly didn't read what I wrote. And even if you did you couldn't possibly understand it as it originates from a mind so brilliant that it is without equal. Therfore anything you say is a fabrication of your own feeble mind.

outsider
08-16-2006, 06:20 PM
I'm glad you can add so much to the thread as well as add your own take to what I've said and so on.

Should I get condescending and go on about how I'm so zen that I should be right and how I despise people having a different opinion to the point that I after being so zen have to slander them?

TheZenMan
08-16-2006, 06:59 PM
I'm glad you can add so much to the thread as well as add your own take to what I've said and so on.

Should I get condescending and go on about how I'm so zen that I should be right and how I despise people having a different opinion to the point that I after being so zen have to slander them?

Sure, if I made huge generalizations, then when challenged offered only my own personal experiences as objective facts, then furthered my "point" by telling you how I so deftly rose above the unfairness I was subject to with even more personal experiences, fuck yeah you should.

I'd question your integrity if you didn't.

In case you hadn't noticed, we never made it to the part where I state my opinion. It seems we're not done with how right you are. I know my opinion is just that, my fucking opinion. It's not fact, it's not right, it's not objective and all the personal experiences I list don't make me any right-er.

So let me give you such a statement to practice on:

America is a nation of whiny, hand-wringing sentimental douches so in love with their victimhood they care for nothing aside from what someone should do for them.

outsider
08-16-2006, 07:11 PM
In case you hadn't noticed, we never made it to the part where I state my opinion.


Sure we have. You just wouldn't come out and say what you wanted to say. Instead you imposed your opinion into what I wrote in an attempt to twist my words around. It's why you use such absolute terms in your responses to me and make a simple statement into some byzantine structure of semantics.



So let me give you such a statement to practice on:

America is a nation of whiny, hand-wringing sentimental douches so in love with their victimhood they care for nothing aside from what someone should do for them.
Is that why you've had that tone lately? Sure seems you have a beef with what quite a few people have to say. I mean obviously if it isn't in agreement with you it's both whiny and hand-wringing oh zenniest one.

The United Kingdom and United States are both in the top ten for Gross Domestic Product (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_gdp) - and for child poverty (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_chi_pov). Wages are going down, cost of living is going up. People have been suckered to be hamburger flipping morons in pursuit of bling.

You haven't ever tried countering that. Instead you jut off on some inane secondary topic that would be self evident if you looked around a bit more. So you know, be zenny some more Zenny McZenster.

TheZenMan
08-16-2006, 07:20 PM
Is that why you've had that tone lately? Sure seems you have a beef with what quite a few people have to say. I mean obviously if it isn't in agreement with you it's both whiny and hand-wringing oh zenniest one.

The United Kingdom and United States are both in the top ten for Gross Domestic Product (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_gdp) - and for child poverty (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_chi_pov). Wages are going down, cost of living is going up. People have been suckered to be hamburger flipping morons in pursuit of bling.

You haven't ever tried countering that. Instead you jut off on some inane secondary topic that would be self evident if you looked around a bit more. So you know, be zenny some more Zenny McZenster.

Countered what?

You told me what question I meant to ask the first time I tried to inquire.

What exactly does that set the stage for?

And please stop linking to shit you consider to be factual, it's of no use.
I can link to all kinds of stuff you won't agree with.

Of course you can find articles, polls and pages to back you up.
Who uses the internet to point out the holes in their argument? It's dumb.

And you keep drawing the parallel that anyone who challenges you is insisting you're wrong. If you stop insisting you're right, your points might become a lot clearer.

Now you've added the notion that people are being suckered into unfair positions due to yet something else that's victimized us all.

Fuck it man, fall on your sword then.

outsider
08-16-2006, 07:26 PM
Right. Because of course when you can corroborate what you're saying it must in fact make it false or some other choice word. Let me guess, children in poverty is a myth.

I did tell you a better question to ask. One that wasn't idle bait for you to dink around with.

And again, thanks for telling me what I'm actually writing. You of course would know it better than I. I mean who else could read between the lines to see all those words that aren't actually there. Congrats man, congrats.

TheZenMan
08-16-2006, 07:39 PM
Right. Because of course when you can corroborate what you're saying it must in fact make it false or some other choice word. Let me guess, children in poverty is a myth.

I did tell you a better question to ask. One that wasn't idle bait for you to dink around with.

And again, thanks for telling me what I'm actually writing. You of course would know it better than I. I mean who else could read between the lines to see all those words that aren't actually there. Congrats man, congrats.

Ah, you're beaten.

outsider
08-16-2006, 07:41 PM
Wow.... how very... zenny.

Lil Rock N
08-16-2006, 08:48 PM
This is like a Twilight Zone version of Who's on First.

Zenny McZenster ROFLMTO!

Söy
08-16-2006, 09:25 PM
idk about you but im on third stealing home